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Hello all; I've been reading about bootCamp and I wondered about how much power or memory is recommended for running both opporating systems.
Here is an example of what an online store offers; what do you think?
Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor with 800MHz frontside bus, 4MB shared L2 cache
and 2.2GHz processor speed
1GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM for multitasking power, expandable to 4GB
Thanks all!
Machine sounds perfect. Just bought a new IMac with similar specks. I have tried bootcamp although can't provide too much insight since I dind't have windows xp servicepac two which is required. Okay! the place where my office bought it stiffed us on that one and sold us a brand new copy of ann older version of XP. What I did se was simly amazing. windows ran verry well. you are not running both os's at the same time but one at a time. All the machines resources are devoted to the particular os you are running. If you want to run both mac and windows side by side paralells desktop is excellent and the tech support is the best I have ever experienced. Windows runs quite well undder parallels as wel.
Thank you so much! Couple questions...
If running both systems at the same time, will the machine run a bit slower?
What is native speed? *lol*
Have you tried fusion?
Lastly, what do I need to look out for when buying windows xp sp2? Do I want an OEM? Is it on cd or dvd?
Thank you again! *smile!*
Let me try to shed a little light on the subject, being an avid Boot Camp user. Any of the Intel macs will run it as long as you have Leopard. Also, you want a full copy of XP, not an upgrade, so an OEM will work just fine. You need sighted assistance to install Windows, unless you have the install memorized, but other than that, you would go into the Utilities folder of Applications, and Boot Camp Assistant is a few choices down. Open it up, partition your drive, and then select to install, and away you go! It works incredibly, and my Macbook runs Windows better than any strictly Windows box I've ever had. Hope that helps!
Jesse how doo you go from windows back to Mac? I know you can go to startup in preferences to go from mac to windows. Thanks. Just bought a new IMac and might try this although I don't know If I want to spend the bucks on XP but it's a thought. love to ditch the big PC tower in favor of this nice 20inch imac on my desk.
Don't even do it that way. When you power on, or restart, and hear the chime, while it's playing, hold the option key down, and then let up when it's finished, and press right-arrpw, then return, and you'll boot into Windows. To boot into OS-10, just don't do anything while the computer's turning on.
Hmmm, should we start another topic here? well I'll ask this so are you saying no matter what os you boot in to when you reboot mac os is the default? Looks like I am going to buy xp and office 2003 and do the bootcamp thing. I really like the IMac and to get everything on one machine the size of a flat screen moniter is EXTREMELY appealing. Did you experience any difficulties with the install and are you using the airport wifi in the mac on windows?
No need to start another topic, I'm loving the descussion! Keep it going guys!
Woof, if you buy windows XP and office 2003, let us know where you get them from. I was looking on newegg.
Ok. Once you set Windows up, you can set up in the preferences pane of OS-10, or in the Boot Camp applet in Windows Control Pannel, which OS you want to start in by default.
Installation was typical Windows installation. Get somebody who can see to help you as usual, and be careful to install it to the correct partition, which should either be called Boot Camp, or C.
Makes you really love Leopard's talking install, doesn't it?
Once everything's set up, there's one change you'll want to make in Windows. You will want to go into the Boot Camp Applet, and in the keyboard tab, tell it that you want to use the function keys for software. You will have to use your screen reader's mouse cursor to make this change, as the applet is not overly conventional.
I do use the standard Airport card, which will be either a Linksys or a Broadcom, depending on what computer you have. Mine's the Linksys, and it's 802.11N compliant. The iSight camera works as well, as does everything else. I can't stress enough that when you boot into Windows, it's just as if you'd booted a natively Windows machine. In fact, that's exactly what it is.
Well, Jesse, I wouldn't want you to stress! wait, this is windows we are talking about of course we must stress.... REally! thanks so much for the info. It really will be nice to have everything on one machine. Also, getting office and xp from amazon.
Well, as far as stress goes, running Windows on a mac may yield less stress than running Windows on a Dell!
Okay, so this may seem like a dumb question, so forgive me... I'm new to the world of Mac, Bootcamp, Etc.
Let's say I've got a MacBook and install Windows XP via Bootcamp. All my assistive tech software will run fine on that boot of Windows? JAWS, Kurzweil 1000, Etc.? (Please say yes, as that makes my life about, oh, five thousand times easier/better.)
That is absolutely correct.
Have a million times nicer life! Smile!
Wait, are we allowed to say "Dell" here in the same sentence as Mac? Hmmm, found office for wow now I forgot the prices sory! did order both xp pro and office 2003 pro from amazon. had to be a couple of hundred bucks each. Probably could have found it for less but I really like doing business with amazon and have never had a problem. Now, Jesse! about that Braine: to answer the questoin that comes after your user name it's the thing that I mostlikely will be picking at if I have any boot camp questions... Here's a question you were talking about the bootcamp template. How does one access this wehn in windows. is that something you will find in control pannel? OH let the learning begin.
Ok, xp pro for about $200, you said? Is that OEM? How does it come? DVD, CDROM?
*Smile,* thank you!
Ok! First, yes, it's ok to use Mac and Dell in the same sentence. An example of this would be the following:Macs are the best computers built today, and Dell sucks!
An unacceptable use would be the following:
My Dell is as good as your Mac.
To answer your second question, it is in the control pannel, and also by right-clicking the Bootcamp Icon in the system tray.
hahahahahaha! now that was wonderful.... from mac OS where is the bootcamp controld from is that someware in preferences? Can't wait till those cd's get here. and yes, that is xp pro on CD and office on CD not OEM additions.
Yes. It's in the startup disk pane of system prefs.
Hay, just a few questions:
What os's can bootcamp install? I'm currently using xp pro but am playing with server2k3 because I find that it runs faster.
I have a unattended install, will this work? The unattended install has intergreated sata, will this work?
I use a few applications that have hotkeys that involve pressing function l, o, p - etc, due to the different keyboard, is this still possible - what happens with the windows key?
Could I have one small xp partition, one small leopard partition and then have one big partition that I stored all my data on?
Just out of interest, is it running xp natively or does it lode up a leopard curnel then bootcamp then the os? Not fussed, just wondering.
Its just that my own laptops aging a bit, and from what i've heard about the hardware in the mbp's, i don't really mind spending an extra £100 or so for a mbp instead of a vaio i have my eye on.
Chears for any answers!
BEN.
Ok. That's a ton of questions, which I shall try to answer.
he supported operating systems are XP of all flavors, and Vista. No mention of the servers.
Unattended setup will not work, as the process of accessing it won't work with the way Apple has to bypass the EFI to install Windows.
Your Windows key switches to the command key, and the Alt key is the option key, so the placement is switched around. Simple stuff.
As for other keyboard tricks, you may want a program called Sharp Keys, which is a free download on the Internet. It allows you to remap keyboard keys the way you want them. Since there's no context key on a Mac, I simply mapped the right-hand command key for this purpose, and since there's no insert, I mapped the enter key on the bottom to perform this task. It was easy as anything.
As for partitioning, you cannot have a data partition as such. You can have your Leopard partition, and your Boot Camp partition, and it warns you against creating more.
Windows loads like OSX would, natively, except that the Apple uses a new thing called EFI, which replaces Bios. Boot Camp tricks Windows into thinking it's booting from a Bios. That is the main operation of it. Hope that helps some.
Jesse
Okay! many appologies windows xp pro was $270 it is ofice 2003 pro that's $230. Jesse, If I keep reading your posts I will definately learn something. I really wich there was a way of getting a talking installation for xp. Gotta wait for someone to give me a hand with this one but at least I am one step closer in getting there. XP is under my couch waiting to be removed from it's box. I'll have a look at sharpkeys. surprised that the insert key doesn't work. interesting. Let's keep those questions coming.
Well, you have an iMac, so the help key will end up being your insert key. That'll work fine, but you'll definitely want a quick context key, since it's not always convenient to use shift_f10.
This is very true. I am using the apple keyboard on the PC and miss the context key. Jesse, have you seen the new keyboards that are flat thin and like laptop keyboards? I'm still using the older apple keyboard because the new one won't work with my KVM switch and it's probably a well, hmm, who knows. So the old keybaord will just have to do.
I own a thin aluminum Apple keyboard. The reason they probably won't work with your KVM is that they require a USB2 port to operate. They also don't ghave that help key anymore, which was kinda a useless key anyway, except in Windows where you would use it as the insert key.
gotcha thanks.